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wow

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welcome to shattered reality with your

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hosts kate valentine

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and ferocia prepare to have your

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paradigms

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shifted into truth questioned

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and now shattered reality shattered

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reality

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hey hello uh we are again

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missing kate valentine here on shattered

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reality

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this is ferusha and we are hoping

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that she will join us before the hour is

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over uh and she promises to try to join

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us

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before the hour is over i wanted to

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mention something that happened this

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past week

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i received on our shattered

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reality podcast facebook

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page a lovely note

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it came as a message from a woman

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in australia

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and she was enjoying our podcast

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and i wrote back to her and i told her

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that i was so happy she was listening

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and i listed a couple of

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our australian guests

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well i sent it off to her and for some

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reason

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facebook in all its wisdom and insanity

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erased the message that she sent me

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and so i wanted to give her a little

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shout out here

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and thank her for her message and she

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will know who she

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is uh and if memory serves me correctly

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her name is maxine but

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memory may not serve me correctly since

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facebook deleted the lovely message in

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any case

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lovely lady from australia we're glad

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you're listening

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and we hope you can get some of your

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friends to listen as well and maybe

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we'll have mary rodwell on again soon

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or one of our other australian guests

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in any case today

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we are going to be talking to a

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gentleman

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who wrote a wonderful book

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and produced a movie called flipside

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both the movie

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and the book are called flipside

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he has been involved with the life

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between life movement which was started

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by the recently late

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mr newton uh there michael newton and he

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passed away within the last six months

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um we are truly sorry that he's gone

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uh but now let's have

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our guest today richard martini hello

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richard

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without further ado hi how you doing i'm

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doing well and guess who just walked in

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oh she's here gosh the saucer just

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thought that she was

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perhaps uh going to be spending the

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afternoon on mars but no okay valentine

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is here

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with us and i just introduced rich

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and hi kate she hasn't got her head set

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on yet but she's

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she's she's going to be there in a

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so why not start out rich

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by telling us a little bit about

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um what brought you to

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the uh michael newton life between life

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movement well

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as many people who come to this kind of

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you've heard this before it was the

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death of a friend

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a close friend of mine passed away her

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name was luana anders and she passed

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and she had these recurring dreams

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before she passed that she was

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in what she said another universe

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where she was in a classroom filled

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with people of teaching something

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spiritual she said it was a language you

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but somehow she completely understood at

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the time i thought

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oh that's the morphine drip talking but

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when she passed away

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a close friend of hers called me and

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said i had this great dream about luana

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last night she's in the fourth

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dimension in a classroom dressed in

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and everybody there seems to be dealing

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but she started appearing to me

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in dreams and at first i thought well

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this is unusual because she was

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appearing as younger than i knew her

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and i had a profound out-of-body

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monroe i i'd read a little bit about

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robert monroe's work and i'd actually

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um had a few experiences in my lifetime

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that's why i read about it you know out

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in this case i found myself shooting

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space wow leaving manhattan like the

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not knowing where i was going seeing

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i'm just saying that was the experience

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and when i got to the other side i was

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traveling instead of this way i was

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traveling this way

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and when i stopped there was my friend

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luanna and her eyes were closed

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and she opened him as if to say you were

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looking for me

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here i am and at that moment

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some guy outside my apartment honked his

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truck horn

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so but the unusual part was i had the

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experience of coming back like

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a rubber band pulling yes absolutely so

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a few splits a split second before the

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guy's hand came off the horn i made that

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trip back

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i saw manhattan coming up at me in this

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incredible rate of speed

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and then woke up in my bed and when i

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stepped out of the bed i thought okay i

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had that experience i don't know what it

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was and

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that's really what started my journey i

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ran into michael newton's work some

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talking to a friend and uh and i opened

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his book journey of souls and the first

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chapter was a guy under deep hypnosis

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i'm in a classroom everyone's dressed in

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white it seems to be a class in

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spirituality

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i thought well wait this might be

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interesting maybe i could make a

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documentary about this

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topic so i called up the newton

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institute they said well michael's

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however he said you could come and

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i was surprised that they were going to

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paul oren the former president of the

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newton institute invited me

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so i flew to chicago my hometown and i

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their workshops

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people under deep hypnosis and

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by the end of that week they said to me

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rich why don't you try it

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george clinton school of journalism

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you know tried something out yourself

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and i thought

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why not i can prove it to be inaccurate

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because i hadn't come

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to do a session i didn't believe in past

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i wasn't i didn't think i could be

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which is really just like a guided

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meditation

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but so i tried it and then four hours

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later i felt like i had taken the red

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pill wow because i had the same

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that all the people that i had read

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about but it was different of course it

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in my journey so since then i've been

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and i've been filming people under deep

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hypnosis by the time i wrote flip side

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and made the film flip side i had done

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since then i've filmed 45 sessions i've

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and then i've moved the research a

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uh the department of perceptual studies

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monroe institute was there weren't they

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michael grosso from there and a couple

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department of perceptual studies well i

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hadn't planned

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it was one of those weird

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non-coincidental things that occur in

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someone had invited me to speak in

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virginia beach

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at the ions institute the international

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association of near death studies

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and this person was friends with dr

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bruce grayson who was part of the

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uva program dobbs and we stayed at his

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and i in advance of going to see him i

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read about him and i realized

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wow you know peop this is a fascinating

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topic so he asked me to send

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uh send him like a dozen books and flip

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side and so everyone

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in his department read it and when i

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they said okay we got a conference and

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so you know i drove over there and for

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two hours

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these guys grilled me and it was

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fascinating because they started with

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uh science doesn't consider hypnosis a

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valid scientific tool

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and i thankfully had read in stephen's

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comments stephen stephenson was the guy

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at uv done the reincarnation studies i'd

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already read his comments

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his commentary about hypnosis and i was

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i agree with you 100 the efficacy of

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what someone is saying under hypnosis

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could be taken apart because of a

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variety of reasons

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however you have thousands of people

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across the globe

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saying the same things consistently

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about the journey it doesn't matter what

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their religion their background their

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gender

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where they came from they're saying the

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precisely

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same things that's a data set

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and i said it's not up to me as a

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filmmaker to prove

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why that is true i said it's up to you

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guys you're the scientist

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right and then i i made this challenge

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this was back in 2011 i said look

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take a michael newton trained

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hypnotherapist i recommend them because

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i'm familiar with

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what they do and take anybody and see if

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they get to the same places that i'm

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telling you they're going to get to

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and if they don't then we're done can

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you but if they

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but if they do then it's up to you guys

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to demonstrate why that is can you

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describe

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i for our listening audience since um

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we have already seen your movie and i've

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read parts of

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michael's books um can you describe

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the experience a general way what would

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happen

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in the life between lives sure the

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person dies

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and then don't know they are consistent

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look michael i can tell you michael noon

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was a skeptic about this

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he didn't believe in the afterlife or

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past lives he just didn't believe in it

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until a client on his chair

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that he had said to him guy had come in

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with psychosomatic pain

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on his shoulder and so he said to the

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guy take me to the source of your pain

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while he was under hypnosis and the guy

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said oh i'm a

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german i'm a british soldier fighting in

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world war one and i'm being stabbed by a

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german soldier michael didn't believe

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him so he

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made him give him his name ranked serial

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number his mother's maiden name

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the address of the house he grew up in

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and afterwards the guy's pain went away

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called him and said i just want to thank

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you and michael wasn't satisfied with

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that so he wrote to the british war

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office and they reported that indeed

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this guy had lived

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so he opened his practice to talking to

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people under deep hypnosis

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about previous lifetimes and it was

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somewhere in the 60s

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a woman came in who was very depressed

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about her current lifetime

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he saw as a case of depression but he

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said to her take me to

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the source of this loneliness and she

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said

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oh i'm with my soul group

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we're discussing my lifetime and we've

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all agreed to be a part this time

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and that's why i feel so lonely and then

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she went

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thank you very much i'm cured you've

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helped me

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but in his case he was stunned by what

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she was saying he had taken extensive

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notes and he basically

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closed his public practice and for the

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next

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30 years only spoke to people who could

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take him to this particular

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environment which he dubbed between

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lives realm

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and he had according to him over 7000

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cases over the course of 30 years but in

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my research i found

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that dr helen wambaugh 10 years earlier

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womba isn't that the woman with um

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with the book um isn't she life

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before life yeah that's one of her books

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she's written a couple

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there was somebody who took over her

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work and finished her work so i i don't

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know about those books i'm just

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i've read all of her cases and examined

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them and they're identical to what

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michael newton says

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and his cases which are in essence

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we choose our lifetimes but let me get

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back to the

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original thing so i could just tie this

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part together

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once i read that part of

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my friend's journey these classrooms

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i thought and they offered this session

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to me

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i went to classrooms i had the

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experience

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of going into classrooms and seeing my

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friend

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in the classroom and her reaction to

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seeing me

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appearing before everyone in class like

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a hologram

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and looking at me like what are you

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doing here

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and me trying to explain what i was

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doing there because i was talking out

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loud to the hypnotherapist

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but everyone in the classroom is looking

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at me like why are you interrupting our

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class

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it was a really odd construct let's just

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put it that way

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if it had been imaginary it wouldn't

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have made any sense

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but in my case i was able to and i've

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been back to this classroom many times

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like i said i've done five of these

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sessions so far

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and what i've found is that you can

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anyone can

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travel in to visit your soul group

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your council your meet your guides

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find out why you chose this lifetime

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it's great stuff oh well what what

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exactly are they teaching in these

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classrooms

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i'm sorry what are they teaching in the

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classrooms what are we teaching

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all right let me before i get to that

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okay i want to go back to your other

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question

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which was what's the process

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so and we'll get to the classroom in a

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second so what's the process

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past it's very simple in a nutshell

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the hypnotherapist spends the first half

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an hour to an hour

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walking through your own life and

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getting you to talk about it let's go

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back to a memory when you were 10 or 11

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years old

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let's go back to when you were five what

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comes to mind what do you see where do

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you live

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details that you would know but i've you

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have this unusual experience of

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walking through your house when you were

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10 and how it looked then

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and the emotions of what that was like

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but that's that's just the process

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eventually they say let's go back to

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your first memory some really early

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memory

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and then they'll say and now we'd like

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to go to a previous lifetime

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that has some significance to this one

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that's key because people remember

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previous lives all the time and aren't

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really sure why but in this case

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they've asked you let's go to something

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that has significance to this life

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so people then start to they're asked

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the question where are we are we inside

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we're outside

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are we are you tall are you short is it

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days at night they're all neutral

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questions by design

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so you're doing the guiding you're the

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one who's taken the person on the trip

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and now you go through a previous

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lifetime whatever it is

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you examine it and eventually you get to

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the end of that lifetime

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and when you get to the end they ask the

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question now where would you like to go

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i've filmed 45 of these people always

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say

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i want to go home they don't mean

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home of the lifetime of this life and

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they don't mean the lifetime the home of

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the lifetime they've just remembered

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they mean home as in not here

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so these people claim consistently

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that when you go back there

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you see all your lifetimes you will get

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to understand that your consciousness

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you only bring about a third to your

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life to this particular lifetime the

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two-thirds it's always back there

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so when you leave here whether you've

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died or whether it's a consciousness

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altered event

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you go back and reconnect with your

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consciousness

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and now you can access all this

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information that

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normally is not accessible except unless

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you've had a near-death event

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or something like that are you guys

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still there yes we're still illustrating

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we're definitely listening i was like

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what's going on over there no no we we

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were listening very closely

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i i have a couple of questions and

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before i

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ask my questions i want to explain two

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things

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the first thing is that

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we are very open-minded but we do

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tend to be slightly skeptical only in a

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very healthy way

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i don't i try not to hold a belief

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unless i've experienced it so i guess

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you could say and i don't know if this

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is true of

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of kate as well but i am agnostic

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with a small g in other words i don't uh

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follow any uh specific agnostic

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christian rituals or anything like that

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but i'm a gnostic with a small g meaning

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that i kind of believe that

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almost anything might be possible but i

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don't

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believe it when somebody tells me i also

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don't disbelieve it

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okay so you know where i'm coming from

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and that we're on the same page

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all right sure and the second thing

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that i wanted to mention is how i came

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to uh the michael newton material

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i have a client of many years uh

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at least 15 years this individual has

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been my client

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and i would say about three or four

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years ago

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she came in with a book of of michael

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newton's she had read two of them and

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she also had an audio presentation that

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he made of one of his books that was

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abridged

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and she said you have to read this i'm

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really interested in this

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and i want to know what you think and um

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so i read the book and i listened to the

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audio

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and i want to explain why i was

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petrified

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now you have been down to um uh the dops

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uh the sv uh

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the uva dops um and uh

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you know that i often go to the monroe

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institute and you may

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remember in the writings of ma robert

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monroe

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he speaks about the belief system

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territories

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uh which is and just for you may know

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what it is but for

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our listeners the belief system

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territories

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or where he saw that people

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went after they died now granted i don't

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just

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take his word as the law or the fact

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but he had a very interesting

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proposition and that

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is that whatever you expected to happen

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in the afterlife

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there were there are ways to go beyond

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like if you were

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like a um a uh

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let us say an orthodox jew you might

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expect something different than if you

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were um

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a catholic or if you were a buddhist

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and that people go to those heavens that

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they kind of

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expect or those situations allow me to

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comment on that

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as i that's my old oxford trained

571
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,039
professor julian baird used to say to me

572
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:39,039
richard i'd agree with you but then we'd

573
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:40,080
both be wrong

574
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:43,760
okay i i agree with what you're saying

575
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:44,799
in terms of

576
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:47,200
people's own beliefs and their opinions

577
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:47,840
about

578
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,559
stuff that happens in my case i try to

579
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:52,799
focus on eyewitness reports

580
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:55,039
so even in the case of the tibetan book

581
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:55,840
of the dead

582
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:58,080
let's give that as an example it's a

583
00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:59,280
wonderful primer

584
00:22:03,669 --> 00:22:02,000
for understanding what happens in the

585
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:03,679
death process and you'll find that

586
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,720
hospice care people have the same sort

587
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:08,400
of list of things that happen

588
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:11,520
however it was written by one person

589
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:14,080
promising baba is the guy who wrote that

590
00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:16,000
and thousands of people have commented

591
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,200
on it but it was his

592
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:20,000
own experience right so when you have a

593
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:21,200
near-death event

594
00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:22,960
and i've spoken to many many people who

595
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:25,600
have they have their own

596
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,039
unique experience and you would assume

597
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:32,400
that then therefore everybody has their

598
00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,559
own unique experiences

599
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,320
and they wouldn't coincide or they

600
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:38,960
wouldn't line up or match

601
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,760
what i focus on is when people report

602
00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,120
the matches

603
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:46,000
the corroborating testimony and i

604
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:47,200
started with

605
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:49,440
people having these between life

606
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,240
experiences

607
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:52,000
hypnotherapy like this again i've

608
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:53,600
examined thousands of cases

609
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,280
than film 45. everybody does have their

610
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,039
own experience

611
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:01,679
that they see and experience during that

612
00:23:06,310 --> 00:23:02,480
but

613
00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:06,320
there are hallmarks so for example

614
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,159
having a guide everybody's got a guide

615
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:12,240
people may wish that they don't but they

616
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:13,280
do

617
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,720
there's nobody that's ever come along

618
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,480
and said you know i don't have a guide

619
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,799
everyone's got a spirit guide everyone's

620
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,280
got a soul group

621
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:23,039
something it's newton found that it was

622
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,799
between three and 25 people in the soul

623
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,480
group i've taken people are total

624
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:28,000
skeptics don't believe

625
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:31,280
in anything religious atheists agnostics

626
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,400
a buddhist muslim doesn't matter what i

627
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:36,799
found actually in this research is that

628
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:40,640
all religions are inaccurate in terms of

629
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:44,640
this journey there's none that actually

630
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:47,200
state or claim or even close to what

631
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,120
people over there are saying

632
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:51,679
about what happens and i compare their

633
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:52,400
reports

634
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,840
so you have libraries that people see

635
00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:57,840
we've heard that term akashic libraries

636
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,080
people see them yes but they never see

637
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:03,600
the same library you see so it can't

638
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:06,960
exist per se there's no two libraries

639
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:08,240
that are identical they're always

640
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:09,120
different

641
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:12,640
so yes people do experience these things

642
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:16,320
from their own frequency however their

643
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:17,360
receiver

644
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,640
is built to to experience things however

645
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:23,679
you can say there is a library so i

646
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:26,559
what i'm talking about is these things

647
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,480
that are consistently reported

648
00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,039
and it's not my opinion or theory or

649
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:33,520
belief that they're reported i'm just

650
00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:36,960
reporting that okay so i was i was going

651
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:37,840
to say that

652
00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:41,360
um there is certain um there are certain

653
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:44,480
um not synchronicities certain uh things

654
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:45,440
in common

655
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:48,720
with um what robert monroe reported

656
00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:51,840
and things that i have experienced both

657
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,880
at the monroe

658
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:54,880
institute and outside of the monroe

659
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,430
starting with uh facing a council

660
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,520
you know sort of going into a very deep

661
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,200
meditational state

662
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:08,400
and facing a council i've also gone

663
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:12,320
on journeys with um natalie sudman

664
00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:13,919
while i was there because we were

665
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,760
roommates and we ended up going to the

666
00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:17,200
same place even though we weren't

667
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:19,039
talking about it beforehand

668
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,240
we compared our uh journey afterwards

669
00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:24,000
and it was very similar

670
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:26,840
so um you know i am open to all this

671
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:29,679
stuff

672
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,799
so you've seen your council i didn't i i

673
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:34,720
saw a group of people it was like

674
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,120
standing in the center of a stadium

675
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:39,440
and they were up on um you know they

676
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:40,799
were up on the uh

677
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:43,279
the bleachers or up on the uh hang on

678
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,320
hold on one second

679
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,640
hold on and this is what i've been doing

680
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,919
for the past three years

681
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:50,320
talking to people about their councils

682
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,440
okay without

683
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:53,440
you being under hypnosis but can you

684
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:54,799
remember

685
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,559
where you were standing when you saw

686
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:58,720
these people yes

687
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:02,240
okay how far away were they

688
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:07,520
um a good distance um 50 yards

689
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:11,679
i'm going to say if it was a softball

690
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:15,360
field and i was standing on the pitchers

691
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:16,240
mound

692
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:18,320
in a softball field not a baseball field

693
00:26:23,110 --> 00:26:19,760
a softball field

694
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:23,120
and there were some some seats

695
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:27,919
raised above uh above me

696
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:32,080
uh in the front of me and i was there

697
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:35,200
okay would you like to go there again

698
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:39,039
uh not this minute but yes why not

699
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:41,679
because we're we're on the air what do

700
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,799
you say kate

701
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:45,039
go for it i've done this i've done this

702
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,559
a dozen times on the air

703
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:48,720
okay let's do it let's go to my website

704
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:49,919
martini prods

705
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,880
at uh youtube you'll see i did it with

706
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,559
dr drew i do it with everybody

707
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,720
so i'm just asking go ahead go ahead

708
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:58,799
it's unusual that people actually

709
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,000
have an eyewitness account

710
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:04,400
that they can access in their mind it's

711
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,360
not my account

712
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:07,200
it's yours right but i can ask you

713
00:27:11,590 --> 00:27:09,679
questions and we can stop at any time

714
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,600
but i'm just saying why not here we are

715
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:13,520
let's go okay let's go for it

716
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,720
anybody could so i watch it in your

717
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:19,360
mind's eye take a

718
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,840
oh she's not going to do anything so

719
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,279
you're standing on the mound

720
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,200
yes and you're looking at these the

721
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,440
stands right yes the stance

722
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,279
and what's interesting is that there was

723
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,720
a there was no

724
00:27:34,789 --> 00:27:33,600
lower stand like as opposed to like a

725
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,799
small

726
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:36,720
let's say a minor league baseball

727
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,320
stadium or something like that

728
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,919
there there were i think you were a

729
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:41,520
baseball player in a past life i'm

730
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,120
kidding

731
00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:46,240
so in that mind's eye you're frozen that

732
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:49,360
frame okay and now what i'm trying to

733
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,039
point out to people is that memory is

734
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:52,480
holographic

735
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,600
it retains all of the details

736
00:28:02,310 --> 00:27:58,799
including multiple levels of details

737
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:02,320
so freeze the frame and i want you to

738
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:02,720
now

739
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:06,640
go forward closer to the stands

740
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,039
allow yourself in your mind's eye to

741
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:11,360
walk a little bit closer closer and

742
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,480
closer and tell

743
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,799
they're only a few feet away from you

744
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:16,480
can you do that

745
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:18,960
i don't think i can get that close uh

746
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,080
how close can you get

747
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,240
a little closer a little yes i can get a

748
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:23,760
little closer but i come

749
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:27,200
upon the place as i was mentioning to

750
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:28,080
you

751
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,440
that would be the first row of seats

752
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:34,320
or the first tier of seats and instead

753
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,200
there is like

754
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,760
a what appears to be a wooden wall there

755
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,679
and they appear to be above that okay

756
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:42,399
do me a favor go to that wall okay i'm

757
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,720
there

758
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:44,720
see you see me i'm getting closer to the

759
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,600
wall and i want you to look up

760
00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:50,080
and eyeball how many count how many

761
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:57,430
um i would say

762
00:29:01,350 --> 00:29:00,320
seven or eight very good hold that

763
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,360
thought

764
00:29:05,269 --> 00:29:03,840
seven or eight i know you've never done

765
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,279
this before

766
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:08,159
but we're gonna have some fun okay okay

767
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,760
and think of this as a game

768
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:12,799
because this is not so serious because

769
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,230
i've done this before they know i'm the

770
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:20,000
guy who walks people up to visit their

771
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,559
council

772
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:22,880
they know what i'm doing it's okay if

773
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:23,600
you don't

774
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,480
all right so i'm cool when you look from

775
00:29:31,350 --> 00:29:28,799
left to right just focus on the far

776
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:31,360
left person person over there on this

777
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:32,399
side

778
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,760
is that a male a female or neither or

779
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,440
both

780
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:40,559
i would say that it

781
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:43,679
is a male

782
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:47,120
but i would say almost like a non-sexual

783
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:47,679
male

784
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:55,200
an angel

785
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,120
being focus on him for a second okay

786
00:30:02,789 --> 00:30:01,360
and again we're not under hypnosis we

787
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,799
could be drinking coffee

788
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,720
water or i'm not putting you under

789
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:06,720
hypnosis i'm just asking

790
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:09,279
all right so i want you to focus on that

791
00:30:13,029 --> 00:30:10,480
dude

792
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,039
what's he wearing and if he's wearing

793
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:14,720
anything how old is he

794
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,520
what does does he have facial hair color

795
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:18,559
his eyes

796
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:22,559
okay um

797
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:25,760
i would say that there it they

798
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:29,039
that he and they both if

799
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,559
everybody is a a white figure and i

800
00:30:36,310 --> 00:30:34,080
don't mean that they're

801
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:36,320
a caucasian i just mean that they're

802
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:37,600
[\h__\h]

803
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,159
or shimmering shimmering white probably

804
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:42,320
dressed in white as well but shimmering

805
00:30:44,789 --> 00:30:42,720
white

806
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,799
so it's more of a light experience than

807
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,720
anything else yes

808
00:30:50,070 --> 00:30:48,480
all right but i'm gonna ask him a

809
00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,080
question all right

810
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,159
first i want to ask if it's do i have

811
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,159
his permission to ask him a question can

812
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,520
i ask him a question

813
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,840
and what's what's the response that you

814
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:04,149
um i sort of get he he shrugs like ah

815
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:04,720
all right

816
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,720
ahead yeah we'll see where we get

817
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:10,399
yeah all right i'm going to ask you a

818
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:12,320
question my friend and again i

819
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:13,120
appreciate

820
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:16,320
your being here in her memory and

821
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,799
allowing us to ask you this question

822
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,960
would you do me a favor and put in her

823
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:22,960
mind's eye

824
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,799
a name your first name whatever we can

825
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:27,440
use

826
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,919
to communicate with you and it's

827
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,360
whatever comes into your mind

828
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:33,519
michael michael all right very good

829
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,399
thank you michael

830
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:36,799
very good can i call you mike no all

831
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:38,000
right michael

832
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:40,480
let me ask you this question it's a very

833
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:41,840
simple question

834
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:45,200
i want you to put in ferocious mind

835
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:49,600
how you earned this place on her council

836
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:52,240
what's a word that comes to mind that

837
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:53,760
represents why michael

838
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:57,279
is on this council

839
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:01,440
this is very weird not really

840
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,240
um the word that came to my mind is

841
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,440
something that i

842
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,440
mostly don't do i mean i've done it

843
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:09,440
maybe twice in my life

844
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:14,080
and the word is skiing skiing

845
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:15,840
very good that's a funny it's a funny

846
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,440
concept because

847
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:19,919
it's not i have to ask michael what do

848
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:20,799
you mean by that

849
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:22,880
do you mean literally skiing or are you

850
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:29,200
talking about a metaphor

851
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:32,399
it appears that he is saying to me

852
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:35,919
that it's coasting downhill ah

853
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,840
thank you michael it's a metaphor

854
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,320
so it's not so much about the physical

855
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,640
we'll take a look a little bit closer

856
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:47,039
so this light that's from michael is it

857
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:47,760
a flat

858
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:51,600
light or is it multicolored or does it

859
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:53,919
glow or describe the light what's the

860
00:32:59,909 --> 00:32:55,200
quality of the light

861
00:33:03,590 --> 00:32:59,919
the light is bluish white

862
00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:03,600
and it is contained it's the kind of

863
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:04,559
light you might

864
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:07,600
think that you would see it like sort of

865
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:08,640
spilling over

866
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,760
or that it would cast a shadow but no it

867
00:33:16,950 --> 00:33:13,840
does not it's contained

868
00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,960
okay michael i want you to do us a huge

869
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:18,000
favor

870
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,799
i don't know if this is possible but we

871
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,080
can ask

872
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,159
would you do me a favor and allow her to

873
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,440
take your hand

874
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:28,080
i know you guys are a distance apart but

875
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:29,679
in her mind's eye i just want her to

876
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,720
take your hand

877
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,240
can you do that can you let her take her

878
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,159
hand can you can you reach out in your

879
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,399
mind's eye and hold michael's hand

880
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:38,880
i've reached out in my in my physical

881
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:39,440
body

882
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,000
with my hand out okay

883
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:46,559
what's the sensation or emotion or

884
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:47,919
feeling when

885
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:51,519
he takes your hand strength

886
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:54,799
oh wow strength it's interesting

887
00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:58,960
okay so michael correct me if i'm wrong

888
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,679
you've you earned her your place on her

889
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:03,919
council through your strengths

890
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,960
as well as her ability to

891
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:09,119
coast because coasting doesn't

892
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:11,119
necessarily it's not a pejorative

893
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:13,359
no it could be to allow things to go by

894
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,560
you that have no

895
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,399
really important thing is that correct

896
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,079
michael

897
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,639
yes all right thank you all right i'm

898
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,079
gonna do something weird michael thank

899
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:23,839
you i appreciate it bro

900
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:26,000
let's go to the next person over we

901
00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:27,200
won't go through all

902
00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,159
seven or eight because we could but

903
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:32,159
let's just go to the next person over is

904
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:45,349
i'm going to say it's a female okay

905
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,639
very good let me ask her is it okay if i

906
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,839
have a conversation with you

907
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,839
we're doing this live on the air to help

908
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:55,599
sure sure sure

909
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,079
do me a favor can you tell me your first

910
00:35:04,710 --> 00:34:59,920
name or some name that we can use

911
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:08,150
her the name that she's giving me

912
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:11,440
is gloria like

913
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:15,280
um but but sort of sung out

914
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:18,000
very good all right i love that do you

915
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:19,200
see any kind of a

916
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,839
a clothing or uh let's say an article

917
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,280
around her body

918
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,640
of any place or is it just light

919
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:29,680
um it's it's

920
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,599
it's white there's white like what would

921
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,480
you know if i look trying to see

922
00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:38,320
something of that nature

923
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:43,119
i would say it's a white uh

924
00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:47,040
soft white cloth

925
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:51,599
oh is she wearing anything on that cloth

926
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:54,960
like jewelry or icons or

927
00:36:02,790 --> 00:35:58,640
no no no okay just uh just edging this

928
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:02,800
sort of sort of some edging on the cloth

929
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:06,480
very good gloria i'd sing your name but

930
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:07,920
i don't want to scare people

931
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:11,280
but gloria tell us what

932
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:14,400
is the quality that you possess that

933
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,990
softness softness could you explain

934
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:28,320
that gloria what does that mean and what

935
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:30,000
does that mean in terms of ferocious

936
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,710
malleability

937
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:39,990
can you show her a lifetime can you show

938
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,720
ferusha gloria can you show ferusha a

939
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:44,079
lifetime where she

940
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:53,190
okay what comes to mind

941
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:56,880
being a fish oh all right very good

942
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:00,400
now i would point out that

943
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:03,440
people report

944
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:07,119
lifetimes in other realms on planets

945
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:09,520
where they're underwater and i'm going

946
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,560
to guess

947
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,200
that this is what she's showing you is

948
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:15,359
that accurate gloria would you tell her

949
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:19,280
yes or no sort of

950
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,680
sort of i'm just saying it's not a fish

951
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,520
from this planet

952
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,680
oh is that correct i don't know i'm not

953
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:26,800
getting that

954
00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:30,480
okay i'm asking gloria she knows gloria

955
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:32,240
is this a fish lifetime that she

956
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:33,760
experienced here

957
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,150
what she's showing me is

958
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:45,200
almost like a very attractive

959
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:50,560
eel a um a an an iridescent eel

960
00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:53,920
very good with with scales

961
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:56,079
and gloria would you put in her mind's

962
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,680
eye where

963
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:00,160
this place is in the universe is it in

964
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:02,160
our universe

965
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:05,200
no okay thank you that's what i'm asking

966
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,720
you don't have to identify it it's a

967
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:08,240
little bit complicated

968
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,760
but i just wanted you to be clear

969
00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:11,520
because you could walk away going i was

970
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:13,359
a fish in a past life what was that

971
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:13,920
about

972
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,480
i'm never eating salmon again i'm just

973
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:17,760
saying

974
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,480
she's shown you something really unique

975
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:22,720
you experience a life

976
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,599
somewhere else not in this realm that

977
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:27,359
was a water-like environment and we

978
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:28,560
don't have to judge it

979
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:31,680
i would if we asked about it i would bet

980
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:34,160
that it was a higher intelligence yes

981
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:34,800
yes

982
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:37,359
i was already told that i was very

983
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:38,240
intelligent

984
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,680
um fish-like character thank you

985
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,280
i've inter i interviewed a guy in my

986
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,880
book flipside he's not the movie but

987
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:46,000
he's in the book

988
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,320
who normally incarnated on some other

989
00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:51,200
planet he described this very unusual

990
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:53,920
it reminded me of the movie arrival you

991
00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:55,359
know what he was describing

992
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:58,480
and very highly intelligent so i try not

993
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,119
to judge

994
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:01,680
any of these questions so but all right

995
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:02,640
back to your counsel

996
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,680
for a second um you got seven or eight

997
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:07,760
yes what i've learned is that people

998
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:08,880
earn

999
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:10,720
these people like they've gone through a

1000
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,920
difficult lifetime

1001
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,760
so far we learned that you're you know

1002
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,599
how to skate ski

1003
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:18,160
right uh actually i can't in this life

1004
00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,640
but uh

1005
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,960
avoid stress avoid stress you know how

1006
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:23,119
to do it yes you can tap into it any

1007
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:23,920
time

1008
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,920
michael can always help you if you ask

1009
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:27,119
him

1010
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:31,119
gloria has shown you a lifetime

1011
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:33,680
where something really unusual but you

1012
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:34,480
learned

1013
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,560
malleability malleability i mean it's

1014
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:40,079
such an unusual term

1015
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:42,320
never heard it before but i understand

1016
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:43,200
it

1017
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,839
right

1018
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,520
we could go over each one but i'm going

1019
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,320
to ask now is there a spokesperson for

1020
00:40:02,310 --> 00:39:56,480
your group

1021
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:06,230
a male a female or somebody

1022
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:10,640
neither or both we have someone here

1023
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:14,480
who is showing themselves to be

1024
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:17,680
like an older man but i'm getting that

1025
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:19,119
that's just for a

1026
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:22,400
show okay very good listen i was having

1027
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,839
a conversation with

1028
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,599
a hypnotherapist that i work with guy

1029
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:27,520
named scott to tampa out here in l.a

1030
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,599
yes claremont he's very good he was

1031
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,280
trained by michael newton

1032
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,880
and he said you know rich it's very

1033
00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:35,119
unusual people present themselves as

1034
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:36,079
these kind of

1035
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,160
old sage bearded you know the wizard hat

1036
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,880
fantastic robes a beautiful light and

1037
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,560
then scott will ask him can you

1038
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,800
show me what you look like to yourself

1039
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,480
and often they're

1040
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,040
light it's a version of light and as

1041
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:53,119
scott put it so succinctly

1042
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,800
everyone's a blob of light we just

1043
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:59,119
wear these different costumes so that we

1044
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:00,720
can present ourselves in a certain way

1045
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:01,280
so

1046
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,319
that's not a pejorative i'm just saying

1047
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,560
thank you for this for this gentleman to

1048
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:08,240
present himself in this way so that we

1049
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:09,839
can converse with him

1050
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,400
can i ask you for a name that you might

1051
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:13,920
so at least i can have a conversation

1052
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:14,720
with you

1053
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,920
uh he's telling me isaac isaac

1054
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,560
very good hi jay nice to meet you dude

1055
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:22,800
now if i could get some lottery numbers

1056
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:23,760
i'm kidding

1057
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,040
isaac if you could put it so

1058
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:29,040
let me ask you isaac how is our friend

1059
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:30,800
farousha doing look what she's doing she

1060
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,920
or she is talking to

1061
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:34,079
millions of people on the planet with

1062
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:35,680
her podcast

1063
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:37,839
would you tell her how she's doing how

1064
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,630
he says she's hanging in there

1065
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:48,790
not so not so generous with the

1066
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,560
compliment so we'll take whatever we can

1067
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:51,599
get

1068
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,280
can you put in her mind's eye uh

1069
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:56,880
something that she's done in her

1070
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:58,880
lifetime that you guys in the council

1071
00:42:01,109 --> 00:42:00,319
thought she had accomplished that was a

1072
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:01,119
good thing

1073
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:10,870
could be any time in your life so

1074
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:13,520
obviously your mind

1075
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:17,680
just pursuing pursuing education

1076
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,440
pursuing education okay so that's

1077
00:42:26,230 --> 00:42:23,520
so why was that a valuable thing to show

1078
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:26,240
her isaac

1079
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:29,440
just to let her know it was worthwhile

1080
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:32,400
very good is there any now let me ask

1081
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:34,400
you could you do me a favor and put a

1082
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,359
sensation

1083
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,440
somewhere in ferusa somewhere head to

1084
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:40,480
toe a physical

1085
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:44,000
sensation that embodies your ability to

1086
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:47,920
touch her frequency it's tingling in the

1087
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:49,920
bottom of my feet which is something

1088
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:50,240
that

1089
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:54,000
i for russia do to ground myself often i

1090
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:56,079
concentrate on the soles of my feet and

1091
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:57,440
when you said that

1092
00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:00,400
i got just the tingling in the soles of

1093
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,200
my feet

1094
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,839
right okay very good listen i you know

1095
00:43:07,910 --> 00:43:05,760
anyone can argue that i

1096
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,920
planted that idea but i've never heard

1097
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,200
of such a thing so

1098
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:11,920
i think that's wonderful what i've

1099
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:12,560
learned

1100
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:15,920
and isaac correct me if i'm wrong but

1101
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,640
this kind of amplification of a signal

1102
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:20,960
is to let you know

1103
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:24,319
not only are you always with someone

1104
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:27,520
you're always guarded you're

1105
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:30,240
always you have people who are watching

1106
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,119
over you

1107
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,760
at all times but also that they're

1108
00:43:38,829 --> 00:43:35,359
accessible

1109
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:38,839
so when you want to speak to isaac or

1110
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:41,599
gloria or michael

1111
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:44,400
sorry i hope the council's not upset no

1112
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:44,800
but

1113
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:48,079
this is a way

1114
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:52,160
of you accessing information from them

1115
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:55,520
now while we're here here we are

1116
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:58,480
let's look around is your is your guide

1117
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,400
here ferocia

1118
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:03,520
have you met your guide before no okay

1119
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:06,800
major guy maybe maybe okay probably

1120
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,839
so can your guide come forward to to

1121
00:44:13,030 --> 00:44:11,599
participate in this conversation is this

1122
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:13,040
a man or a woman or

1123
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:20,829
i think it's one of those um

1124
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:24,640
angelic non-sexual men

1125
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,000
male oh okay very good i know a few

1126
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:31,200
i'm kidding okay very good and do we

1127
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:32,000
have a name

1128
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,309
i'm not getting something too easily

1129
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:45,040
here that's an unusual name

1130
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,160
okay okay mr i'm not getting something

1131
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,400
no i'm not getting it i'm getting an i'm

1132
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,000
getting it

1133
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,839
all right let's just call him m you know

1134
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:55,119
because here's the thing i

1135
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:58,400
i use this term loosely named it's not

1136
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,200
their name

1137
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:01,680
this is a name for you right so that you

1138
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:03,680
can communicate about what it is they're

1139
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:04,000
trying

1140
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,000
to impart to you so em i appreciate you

1141
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:10,079
making yourself known to her can you see

1142
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:11,359
his features

1143
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:15,680
what does he look like um

1144
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:18,800
an angel without wings very good

1145
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,760
and emma let me ask you this when we

1146
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:23,040
talk about wings

1147
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:26,400
and angel's wings correct me if i'm

1148
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,800
wrong

1149
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:29,520
this is a a mode of transport the idea

1150
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:30,240
that you can

1151
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,000
shift your consciousness anywhere on the

1152
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:34,240
planet anywhere off the planet anywhere

1153
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:35,280
in the universe

1154
00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,599
and you're able to move there swiftly

1155
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:39,760
and the wings become like a metaphor for

1156
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:40,720
that ability

1157
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,400
is that accurate or did you just set

1158
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:47,119
your wings down um no it's relatively

1159
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,000
accurate

1160
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,560
all right thank you relatively that's

1161
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:51,920
story of my life

1162
00:45:58,829 --> 00:45:55,520
um very good so m um

1163
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:58,839
how do you think your your charge is

1164
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:01,280
doing

1165
00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:04,160
how do you think ferocious dose he says

1166
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:04,800
he has the

1167
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:07,920
he has to he has to kick me in the butt

1168
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,920
very good okay and that's i think that's

1169
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,839
very honest it's easy to say oh i'm

1170
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:13,359
doing great

1171
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:15,520
um and it's important for your audience

1172
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:17,839
to hear as well

1173
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,119
when i've been doing this and i've been

1174
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,520
doing this a long time 10 years

1175
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,640
people generally say you're doing what

1176
00:46:28,790 --> 00:46:25,839
you set out to do

1177
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,800
you're doing what you signed up for but

1178
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,800
sometimes they say you know we gotta

1179
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,880
give you a swift we gotta remind you to

1180
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,400
stay on your path

1181
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:36,640
and and that's important it's because

1182
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,040
it's important to know

1183
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:41,200
there's somebody right behind you at all

1184
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,560
frickin times

1185
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,960
no matter where you are whether you're

1186
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:46,079
depressed

1187
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,520
lonely sitting in a hotel room in paris

1188
00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,839
thinking about your life there's someone

1189
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:53,680
right over your shoulder going

1190
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:56,720
i'm here i can help you

1191
00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:00,160
and it's important to hear that not just

1192
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:02,560
you know some people will think oh she's

1193
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:04,319
talking about an angel but without wings

1194
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:05,599
what is that

1195
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:08,640
try not to focus on the syntax of what

1196
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,160
someone's experiencing

1197
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:13,040
it's their experience i don't i don't

1198
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:13,680
know this

1199
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:16,720
m guy you know i've never met him but

1200
00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,240
but he knows who you are

1201
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:22,720
and he knows who your counsel is and

1202
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,359
he's a

1203
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:25,920
he's the one who suggested you call me

1204
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:28,000
because he wants you to have this

1205
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:29,359
conversation with him

1206
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:32,319
and it's why i said let's talk to him

1207
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:32,800
you see

1208
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,359
so your flip side people are always

1209
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,119
accessible to you

1210
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:39,359
this information is not foreign or weird

1211
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,520
you don't have to be under hypnosis

1212
00:47:44,549 --> 00:47:43,280
you just kind of have to open yourself

1213
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:44,559
up to it

1214
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,280
open up your heart i'm sure you probably

1215
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,040
meditate in your life so you

1216
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:51,440
absolutely absolutely so you're tuned to

1217
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:53,200
how to do that to open yourself

1218
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,960
up to see but listen what i tell people

1219
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:57,680
to focus

1220
00:48:01,270 --> 00:48:00,559
on is and everybody i just want to

1221
00:48:02,790 --> 00:48:01,280
before we

1222
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:02,800
move on i just want to thank everybody

1223
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,559
in your council well thank you i'm sorry

1224
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,960
it's everybody but you know listen this

1225
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:07,920
is important

1226
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:10,960
for ferocity here but and her audience

1227
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:13,280
but that idea that not only are we

1228
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,480
always protected and always loved

1229
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,240
you know when i talk to people about

1230
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:20,000
this experience and i shared it with

1231
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:23,839
the guys at dobs what's consistent

1232
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:26,960
among all the research near death events

1233
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:30,000
the uh the events that you know between

1234
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,520
life sessions

1235
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,920
and other out-of-body experiences when i

1236
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,640
asked them

1237
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,319
what was it like what was the experience

1238
00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:38,720
like when you got home

1239
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:44,160
they'll say i felt unconditional love

1240
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,920
and i think to myself it's not a term

1241
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,440
that we use on the planet

1242
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:49,680
it's because we just we live in an

1243
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,000
existence of conditional love

1244
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,240
so the idea that you can experience

1245
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,920
unconditional i mean some parents have

1246
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:57,599
it with their kids and some people have

1247
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:58,800
it with their pets

1248
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:02,000
sometimes so you can taste

1249
00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:05,119
it but here people talk about

1250
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:06,480
between lives you would have an

1251
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:09,520
experience of unconditional love

1252
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:12,720
wow so this work that we're doing is to

1253
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:16,480
really i think remind people that there

1254
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:19,599
is a place and there are people

1255
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:22,960
who love them unconditionally

1256
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:26,079
you can do everything wrong and you will

1257
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:28,079
still be loved

1258
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,160
well you know you seem to indicate that

1259
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:31,920
um there are lies on other

1260
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:34,960
planets other spheres and so on so

1261
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:37,839
uh do those entities also have

1262
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:38,800
protective

1263
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:42,000
um souls councils and so on

1264
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:46,549
to hear that i thought oh maybe it's

1265
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:48,880
just humans but

1266
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:53,520
within this research it appears to be

1267
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:56,559
universal the process whether it's a

1268
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:57,680
person

1269
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,800
incarnating on this planet or some other

1270
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:01,920
planet

1271
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:04,079
they have councils they and i've spoken

1272
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,240
to council members just like we've done

1273
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,359
where they say council member says well

1274
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,520
i'll ask have you ever incarnated with

1275
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,200
our friend here they'll say no

1276
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,720
and i'll say have you ever incarnated

1277
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,040
anywhere they'll say yeah

1278
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:18,880
somewhere else and then i'll say what

1279
00:50:23,430 --> 00:50:20,960
was that place like and they'll describe

1280
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,440
some other completely unusual

1281
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,280
environment

1282
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:28,000
the point is only you know not to parse

1283
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,040
like where are they

1284
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:31,839
but it's the point is everybody goes

1285
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:32,240
through

1286
00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:35,680
this kind of process and i think from

1287
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,800
you know my limited experience i mean

1288
00:50:43,990 --> 00:50:40,000
i've interviewed

1289
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:44,000
passed away

1290
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:50,400
in a session like this asked

1291
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,119
can we access your information like what

1292
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:55,040
was your journey and process why did you

1293
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,160
choose this life

1294
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:57,839
why did you choose this person in your

1295
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:00,800
life it's fascinating because you do get

1296
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:02,480
these answers um

1297
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,440
yeah i i chose this person and you know

1298
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,839
we lived together in the 1700s and i was

1299
00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:08,720
his horse

1300
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,040
and then i was his dog in this life i

1301
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:12,720
don't know i think it's important

1302
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:15,920
do animals not move over to humans

1303
00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:18,960
and back and forth on earth well in

1304
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:19,520
general

1305
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:23,280
research he said never

1306
00:51:29,430 --> 00:51:26,640
however i found in my research that

1307
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:29,440
occasionally someone will come forward

1308
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:30,400
and say

1309
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,240
and in fact scott the table i mentioned

1310
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:34,800
earlier lifebetweenlives.com

1311
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,760
he had an experience with somebody who

1312
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:38,880
insisted

1313
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:41,839
that they had been in a fox in a

1314
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:47,109
but here's the thing when you choose a

1315
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,720
lifetime

1316
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:50,480
you have to get everybody in your soul

1317
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:51,839
group to agree

1318
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:54,559
um that you're gonna that this is how i

1319
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,440
was gonna help you

1320
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:58,240
and them in this particular case though

1321
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:58,960
scott

1322
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:01,520
and sometimes people are able to do this

1323
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:02,880
while this person was under deep

1324
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,160
hypnosis

1325
00:52:08,150 --> 00:52:06,480
and examining this very specific

1326
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:08,160
lifetime where the fences were

1327
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,079
where the hutch was you know who they

1328
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,160
were mated with et cetera et cetera

1329
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,680
he said well let's go to a previous

1330
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:15,680
lifetime before that life

1331
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:18,400
let's examine that and that person said

1332
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:18,800
oh

1333
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:22,079
i was an arctic fox so so i

1334
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:25,359
i all i can say is you try not to

1335
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:28,000
judge what people are saying remember

1336
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:29,839
like i said about pognas and baba

1337
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:31,440
yes he's the one guy who had that

1338
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:34,079
experience so i'd need to find

1339
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:36,640
two people who had this experience in my

1340
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,480
case when i first began the research and

1341
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:40,400
i mentioned in the book flip side

1342
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:43,680
i interviewed a oxford professor who

1343
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,240
had a previous life memory of being in

1344
00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:48,720
boston in the 1840s married to a woman

1345
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,559
that he knows from this life

1346
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:53,359
and so i said as an experiment have you

1347
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,520
told this friend about this experience

1348
00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:57,280
you had this past life memory said no

1349
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:59,839
i said well then if you allow me so i

1350
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:01,280
found a hypnotherapist

1351
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:04,000
in new york city who didn't know

1352
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:05,599
anything about this guy's past life

1353
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,400
memory

1354
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:08,160
he did a session with her and she had

1355
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:09,520
the identical past

1356
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:11,760
life memory being married to this guy in

1357
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:13,359
boston in the 1840s

1358
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:16,559
wow so when you find

1359
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:19,440
two people who have the identical memory

1360
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,960
so let's say someone comes to you and

1361
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:21,599
says i

1362
00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:23,040
you know i have this recurring dream

1363
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,800
that i was an eagle

1364
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:27,119
you can say so let's talk to your eagle

1365
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:28,880
family let's talk to your mom it's like

1366
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:31,280
your dad let's [\h__\h] your children

1367
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:33,680
what's going on here sometimes you find

1368
00:53:38,069 --> 00:53:34,559
out

1369
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,079
you know there's a tibetan meditation

1370
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:40,079
from the six yogas of naropa just a

1371
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:41,520
casual reference

1372
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,640
but where people can monks practice on

1373
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,559
shifting their consciousness out of

1374
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:48,640
their head and into

1375
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:51,760
another a creature absolutely yes so but

1376
00:54:34,549 --> 00:53:52,160
i

1377
00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:34,559
about me and he took us to an event

1378
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,839
that i saw in my first deep hypnosis

1379
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:38,960
session where i was talking to my

1380
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,440
counsel

1381
00:54:43,349 --> 00:54:42,240
just the way you were but now i'm in his

1382
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:43,359
head and he's

1383
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,760
describing me talking to my counsel and

1384
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,359
i'm seeing myself

1385
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:50,000
from that weird perspective seeing

1386
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:50,640
myself

1387
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:53,839
over there talking but then what's funny

1388
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,480
about it

1389
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,880
is that when i did the first session

1390
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:58,319
when i did the original one

1391
00:55:01,750 --> 00:55:00,559
i had told a joke to my counsel and they

1392
00:55:04,829 --> 00:55:01,760
had all laughed

1393
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,839
in my mind's eye they were roaring with

1394
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:06,000
laughter

1395
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,839
and i was like oh my god i'm killing

1396
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,200
over here

1397
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:11,599
here is two years later i'm now having

1398
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,880
this

1399
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,040
visual of seeing myself talking to the

1400
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:17,520
council and i told that joke

1401
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:22,400
and they chuckled it wasn't

1402
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,240
and it was unusual is that my guide

1403
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,480
was aware that i was seeing it from his

1404
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:29,839
perspective and he said

1405
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:32,480
you know we love rich but you know we've

1406
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,079
seen him a lot over here

1407
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:37,920
we've heard his jokes before you know so

1408
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:41,280
anyway it's just a weird way of saying

1409
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:43,839
consciousness isn't what we think it is

1410
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,000
it appears to be more of a liquid medium

1411
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:51,280
move and and inhabit well that's almost

1412
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:53,040
what you say for sure all the time that

1413
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,640
there's this large plane of

1414
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,640
consciousness throughout the universe

1415
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,799
and so what you're saying is that just

1416
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,640
people animals whatever just pop

1417
00:56:06,230 --> 00:56:03,680
in and out of it it's sort of like a

1418
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:06,240
like a fluffy quantum sea yeah really

1419
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:06,799
yeah

1420
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:08,880
which is really interesting but i am

1421
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:09,839
saying yes

1422
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,640
if you think of consciousness as water

1423
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,680
so then correct

1424
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,680
there is an ocean of consciousness out

1425
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:18,000
there however we have our own particular

1426
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:19,280
little ponds

1427
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:22,400
of glass let's say of water that is

1428
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:25,599
us so we can experience what everybody

1429
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:27,920
else is feeling we're all connected but

1430
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:30,000
there is us it's got all our memories

1431
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:31,520
all our previous lifetimes

1432
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:35,200
we live them in a linear fashion because

1433
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,559
otherwise we wouldn't learn any lessons

1434
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,400
if we didn't do so

1435
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:41,440
that water then two-thirds of it

1436
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:44,960
stays home so a third of it comes out

1437
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:47,760
and goes into the incarnation

1438
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:50,400
and spends the time here examining

1439
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,359
having fun

1440
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,599
talking blah blah blah well do you ever

1441
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,200
do you ever become a council for

1442
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:57,280
somebody else

1443
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:00,079
uh i'm sorry say that again do you ever

1444
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:02,960
become somebody else's guide or counsel

1445
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:05,599
i've never had that experience no i have

1446
00:57:09,670 --> 00:57:06,319
had the

1447
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:09,680
experience of waking from a dream

1448
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,680
and feeling like i had been arguing

1449
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:15,680
on someone's behalf in front of a

1450
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:16,799
council

1451
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:20,319
i i've never run across that occupation

1452
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:23,359
but i i was aware that the argument

1453
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,280
i was making was that this person

1454
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:29,599
should be able to change their life

1455
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:31,839
agreement their contract

1456
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,240
because they wanted to stick around

1457
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,760
longer

1458
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:37,520
and even though it would disrupt

1459
00:57:42,470 --> 00:57:38,960
everybody else's

1460
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,480
part of the play that because they were

1461
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:44,960
learning and had learned certain things

1462
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,599
that this would help everybody else

1463
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,160
and as the awareness that i had was i

1464
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:52,880
was walking away with like my fellow

1465
00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:55,920
attorney and saying well we'll see if

1466
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:57,440
that worked

1467
00:58:02,710 --> 00:57:59,760
so i have no idea what that meant other

1468
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,720
than i was just aware of that

1469
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:04,480
what if somebody doesn't want to come

1470
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,760
back

1471
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:07,359
well there you go you have to make the

1472
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:09,280
argument so here's the thing

1473
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,799
if what these people are saying and

1474
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,400
that's not what i'm saying if what

1475
00:58:17,349 --> 00:58:14,720
people these people are saying is true

1476
00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,359
that we make an agreement to come here

1477
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:18,720
and we work it out

1478
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:21,599
and basically we say look we're going to

1479
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:22,880
i'm gonna play the role

1480
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:26,079
of the cranky old uncle who is an

1481
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,960
alcoholic

1482
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:28,799
you've asked me to play this role and i

1483
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,079
i even i said no

1484
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:32,640
we could say no to a role i've seen this

1485
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,680
quite often

1486
00:58:37,349 --> 00:58:35,440
we have free will we can say no i don't

1487
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:37,359
want to do that again i did that in the

1488
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,200
viking era i'm tired of it

1489
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:41,520
but let's say you convinced me i can't

1490
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:42,559
learn this lesson

1491
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:45,280
unless you because you're so good at it

1492
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,839
play the cranky drunk uncle

1493
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:50,079
so i agree i come and i'm the cranky

1494
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,280
drunk uncle

1495
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:53,680
and at some point i start to say god

1496
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:55,280
i've done this so many times

1497
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:57,920
and i'm wasting my journey because this

1498
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,680
is so exciting to be on the planet to

1499
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:00,880
breathe

1500
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:03,119
cappuccino you know what i'm gonna get

1501
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,240
sober

1502
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:06,319
i'm gonna change the third act the third

1503
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:07,440
act was gonna be me

1504
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:09,680
jumping off a cliff i'm changing the

1505
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:11,839
third act i'd like to put the weapon

1506
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:13,040
down

1507
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,440
and i now have a conversation with my

1508
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:17,280
counsel and i say look guys

1509
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:20,160
i know i agreed to come back to help

1510
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,400
people on this other level but i think

1511
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,480
i can learn more here it didn't let me

1512
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,319
stay

1513
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,440
they can say i don't know they i guess i

1514
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,359
can't imagine them saying no

1515
00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:32,880
but they could they could say look

1516
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:34,880
you're screwing it up for everybody else

1517
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:36,079
you know you have to

1518
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:37,520
you have to come back so that these

1519
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:40,000
other people can come forward or they

1520
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:41,040
can help you

1521
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:43,520
you're cheating them out of their lesson

1522
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:44,880
one of my major

1523
00:59:50,549 --> 00:59:48,079
jokes and just as an aside is

1524
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:50,559
that uh i always tell people i i don't

1525
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:51,839
care to come back

1526
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:54,160
uh to this planet and i think i'd rather

1527
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:55,520
go to that

1528
01:00:02,069 --> 00:59:59,040
fluffy pink and purple pillow planet

1529
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:02,079
with the lovely pink kittens bouncing up

1530
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:02,720
and down

1531
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:06,640
with me in that in that planet

1532
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:10,240
um can i just say that my friends uh you

1533
01:00:13,829 --> 01:00:11,280
know and i've heard this

1534
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,839
often they go yeah okay that's great for

1535
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,119
about an hour

1536
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:18,240
and then you get bored listen

1537
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:21,680
i come from theater and drama conflict

1538
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:23,200
is the essence of drama

1539
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:25,839
yes you don't have a good play unless

1540
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,880
you have drama

1541
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:28,640
and you can't have drama unless there's

1542
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:31,520
conflict so you need that

1543
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,640
to be entertained and if you you could

1544
01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:36,240
go to the fluffy pink planet but when

1545
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:37,200
you're done there

1546
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,960
all your friends are going to be like

1547
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:40,240
really

1548
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,079
you made me watch your guides like you

1549
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:43,839
maybe watch that

1550
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:46,240
or like well who exactly are these

1551
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:48,240
counsel i mean they're obviously not

1552
01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:50,160
they don't reincarnate would they just

1553
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:52,240
stay up there and counsel you

1554
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:54,960
well everybody has their own everybody

1555
01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:56,319
has their own counsel

1556
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,040
yes and who are they you've earned them

1557
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:00,880
you've earned their role on your council

1558
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:02,079
go from going through a different

1559
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:02,960
lifetime maybe

1560
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:05,440
compassion maybe what we learned those

1561
01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:07,920
two things that she had on her council

1562
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:11,119
but i've recently come to learn

1563
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:13,680
this was not in newton's work because i

1564
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,440
asked

1565
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:17,280
council members serve on other people's

1566
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:23,750
so like i'm here we are knocking on the

1567
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,079
door

1568
01:01:27,190 --> 01:01:25,839
we just asked your counsel to show up

1569
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:27,200
and they were all there

1570
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:29,440
right right but they could have been

1571
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:31,520
busy doing something else

1572
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:33,119
when you know rich is knocking on the

1573
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,119
door like come on we want to talk to you

1574
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:37,040
is it temporal though i would imagine

1575
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:38,400
that sort of temporal

1576
01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:42,319
um situation is not uh

1577
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:45,440
it's not necessarily uh

1578
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:48,000
viable i would say it could be in two

1579
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,520
places at once or

1580
01:01:53,430 --> 01:01:51,599
that that that once you're out of the

1581
01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:53,440
body time is uh

1582
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,039
is not of the essence well exactly

1583
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,520
once you're outside of time i've had

1584
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:01,280
this experience

1585
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,599
once you're outside of time then you can

1586
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:05,359
sort of like you think of time

1587
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:08,000
as a sphere right this is the earth

1588
01:02:11,029 --> 01:02:09,200
sphere of time

1589
01:02:13,109 --> 01:02:11,039
you can sort of poke your finger in over

1590
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:13,119
here and be in that century

1591
01:02:16,309 --> 01:02:14,400
you can poke your finger over here and

1592
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:16,319
be in this century so you're in both

1593
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:18,400
places simultaneously

1594
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:21,440
you see plus you have this thing of your

1595
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:22,640
consciousness is not

1596
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:25,760
finite into one particular thing

1597
01:02:31,670 --> 01:02:29,280
a third comes here i asked once well

1598
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:31,680
does that mean the other part of my

1599
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:33,359
consciousness could be incarnating with

1600
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:34,400
somebody else

1601
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:37,920
and the answer do the math so

1602
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:43,510
different places at the same time

1603
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,680
because if a third is here roughly

1604
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:47,280
people if you ask people like how much

1605
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:48,880
of your consciousness do you bring

1606
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:49,680
they'll say

1607
01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:52,880
anywhere between 20 and 40 but that

1608
01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:55,520
oh so back to your answer your question

1609
01:02:58,710 --> 01:02:57,119
about the classrooms

1610
01:03:00,789 --> 01:02:58,720
all these classrooms i've visited and

1611
01:03:02,309 --> 01:03:00,799
like i said i've visited oh maybe four

1612
01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:02,319
or five

1613
01:03:06,309 --> 01:03:05,280
maybe more every classroom i've gone

1614
01:03:08,870 --> 01:03:06,319
into

1615
01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:08,880
they're teaching something about the

1616
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:10,640
transference of energy

1617
01:03:13,910 --> 01:03:12,559
how energy gets transferred or

1618
01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:13,920
transformed

1619
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:17,039
either from thought into objects they

1620
01:03:23,190 --> 01:03:19,119
claim that they're

1621
01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:23,200
helping other planets in distant places

1622
01:03:30,549 --> 01:03:26,640
to accommodate life so they're using

1623
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:30,559
thought and mathematics to create life

1624
01:03:36,309 --> 01:03:33,599
in distant planets as they did here

1625
01:03:37,829 --> 01:03:36,319
at some point and so that those

1626
01:03:39,109 --> 01:03:37,839
creatures that come to life will

1627
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:39,119
accommodate

1628
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:41,520
consciousness what do you think of the

1629
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:42,720
idea of

1630
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:45,680
a distant mental influencing or remote

1631
01:03:50,309 --> 01:03:47,200
influencing by

1632
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:50,319
humans to other humans all of us here on

1633
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:51,760
earth

1634
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,000
there's a i've heard this often there's

1635
01:03:59,829 --> 01:03:56,319
a sacrosanct law

1636
01:04:01,990 --> 01:03:59,839
and the law is you cannot interfere

1637
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,000
so that's why we haven't had aliens come

1638
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:03,920
here that's why even though we have

1639
01:04:07,270 --> 01:04:06,160
people all over the planet however i

1640
01:04:10,150 --> 01:04:07,280
must tell you

1641
01:04:12,230 --> 01:04:10,160
in my research i've actually michael

1642
01:04:14,870 --> 01:04:12,240
newton's research uh

1643
01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:14,880
10 of all the people that he saw

1644
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,160
thousands of people

1645
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:18,079
claim to have off-life experience

1646
01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:19,200
off-world experience

1647
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:22,160
off-planet experience in other planets

1648
01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:24,000
that number has risen to 30

1649
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:25,440
according to pete smith who i

1650
01:04:29,589 --> 01:04:27,440
interviewed in my second book

1651
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:29,599
it's a wonderful afterlife pete smith

1652
01:04:33,750 --> 01:04:31,760
said that number's risen to 30

1653
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:33,760
so that either means 30 of the people

1654
01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:36,079
that are on the planet are coming

1655
01:04:41,270 --> 01:04:38,000
to explain why they're here this is like

1656
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:41,280
their first time here so my point is

1657
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:44,400
the whole a concept of aliens coming

1658
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:45,359
here

1659
01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:51,119
else so the question is

1660
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:52,880
why why are you coming here what's your

1661
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,799
what's your journey why are you here and

1662
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:56,400
they say

1663
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:59,200
kind of consistently to alter the

1664
01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:01,200
consciousness of the planet

1665
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:04,079
to help the shift help shift

1666
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:05,920
consciousness so people can understand

1667
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:06,960
that we don't die

1668
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:10,079
that we can access other worlds that

1669
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:13,119
it's time for us to appreciate this

1670
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:13,839
information

1671
01:05:17,510 --> 01:05:16,319
well what i was going to mention there

1672
01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:17,520
is that the

1673
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:21,039
population of the earth as we are told i

1674
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:22,400
mean i assume that

1675
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:27,039
it's true has increased vastly

1676
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,400
uh you know geometrically over time so

1677
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:32,640
these souls have to be coming from

1678
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,640
somewhere if indeed

1679
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:36,799
exactly yeah that's right correct but

1680
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:38,000
the other part of the

1681
01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:41,039
equation is souls are created outside of

1682
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:42,240
time

1683
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:45,119
so the process of a soul coming into

1684
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:45,680
being

1685
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:48,079
has nothing to do with the big bang so

1686
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:49,680
it's nothing to do with what i'm sorry

1687
01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:50,720
i'm accepted

1688
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:52,319
that's nothing to do with big bang in

1689
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:54,240
other words there have been many big

1690
01:05:57,670 --> 01:05:55,359
bangs

1691
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:57,680
okay according to what people say and a

1692
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:00,079
soul can come into existence at any time

1693
01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:03,440
like there oh there's another one

1694
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:05,359
they can come into existence and show up

1695
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:08,079
here it's not a finite amount of

1696
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:11,440
souls to be accessed but i agree with

1697
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:12,559
you

1698
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:16,079
percent of the people who show up under

1699
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:17,039
deep hypnosis

1700
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:18,640
that have claimed to have off-life

1701
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:20,720
experience off-world experience

1702
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,400
it must be you know because they're

1703
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:24,000
taking the place of somebody who might

1704
01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:25,359
have come here

1705
01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:28,960
i don't know all i know is

1706
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:32,079
if you look at 10 people three of them

1707
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:35,200
have had some experience on another

1708
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:35,839
planet and

1709
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,960
we all know who those people might be in

1710
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:40,000
our lives right

1711
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:43,920
oh yes oh yes i i i once took a trip to

1712
01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:46,640
mexico with a friend of mine

1713
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:50,400
another lady and she had consistent

1714
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:51,520
dreams

1715
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:54,640
of being on another

1716
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:57,440
in another existence on another planet

1717
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,000
and

1718
01:07:03,109 --> 01:07:00,559
she was a lovely person but if you met

1719
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:03,119
her you would understand it

1720
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,160
right right there you go hello yeah so

1721
01:07:10,470 --> 01:07:08,319
you know but listen i i you know the big

1722
01:07:12,309 --> 01:07:10,480
thing that i've learned in this

1723
01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,319
the big things but one of the main

1724
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,079
things i've learned is to try not

1725
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:17,039
judge people for their path we have no

1726
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:17,920
idea

1727
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:19,920
what it's like to be in their shoes we

1728
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:22,799
have no idea why they chose this path

1729
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:25,680
the only way we can find out is to ask

1730
01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:26,240
them

1731
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:28,400
exactly and what i've been doing in the

1732
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:30,319
past three years is i work with a medium

1733
01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:32,240
jennifer schaefer out of manhattan beach

1734
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:34,079
she works with the fbi and other law

1735
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:35,200
enforcement agencies

1736
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:37,520
very good at what she does and when i

1737
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:39,520
came to the idea of like well if

1738
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,200
peop if it's what people are saying in a

1739
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,200
near-death experience or deep hypnosis

1740
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,440
is accurate then wouldn't it make sense

1741
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:47,599
that if somebody can talk to them

1742
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,160
we could verify that and so i focus

1743
01:07:54,549 --> 01:07:52,400
mostly on people that i knew

1744
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:54,559
who are no longer here so i can verify

1745
01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:55,680
what they're saying

1746
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:58,480
so i'll ask them the question who was

1747
01:08:01,349 --> 01:07:59,839
the first person to greet you when you

1748
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,359
got over there

1749
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:03,440
it's not an answer i would know or

1750
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:05,200
jennifer could possibly know

1751
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:06,880
but their family might because they'll

1752
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,280
say yeah i saw my uncle

1753
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:11,760
with the uh one arm the soldier that you

1754
01:08:13,589 --> 01:08:13,039
served in world war one that's who

1755
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:13,599
greeted me

1756
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,039
and i talked to the family i said did

1757
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,960
you guys have an uncle john who served

1758
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:18,719
in world war one he's missing an arm yes

1759
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:19,520
we did

1760
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:21,279
so i've been doing that for three years

1761
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:22,960
fascinating

1762
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:25,359
uh i put the book together it's called

1763
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:27,120
uh backstage pass

1764
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:28,719
which came from one of the people we

1765
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:30,799
were talking to who said you know

1766
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:32,560
talking to us in this manner is like

1767
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:34,480
having a backstage pass you get a chance

1768
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,920
to talk to anybody

1769
01:08:39,829 --> 01:08:38,159
anywhere it's a fascinating topic

1770
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:39,839
because i just try to focus on the

1771
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:40,719
things

1772
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:43,679
that i can verify well everything well

1773
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:45,359
everything you've said has been truly

1774
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,679
fascinating and so i think it's time for

1775
01:08:51,829 --> 01:08:49,679
us to let the audience know the names of

1776
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:51,839
your books and where they can films and

1777
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,719
your

1778
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,480
website all that good i know the flip

1779
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:56,000
side was cool that was nice

1780
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:57,920
yeah we enjoyed that well i'm glad you

1781
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:59,839
enjoyed that i apologize if you know i

1782
01:09:02,149 --> 01:09:00,319
made it

1783
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:02,159
on my computer here it's not you know

1784
01:09:07,590 --> 01:09:03,600
like a typical film

1785
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:07,600
but looks pretty looks good looks good

1786
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,759
thank you gaia owns flipside now and so

1787
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,359
they have it on their website

1788
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:13,679
i think you can find it on amazon for

1789
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,199
streaming whatever

1790
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:17,040
the book is called flipside a tourist

1791
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:18,719
guide on how to navigate the

1792
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,400
afterlife i'm the tourist and then the

1793
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:23,759
next two books were called

1794
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:26,159
uh it's a wonderful afterlife it was so

1795
01:09:31,590 --> 01:09:29,120
much information i put them into two

1796
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:31,600
they're scientists the bruce grayson and

1797
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,719
other scientists weigh

1798
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,719
in on consciousness so we talk about

1799
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:36,000
consciousness quite a bit

1800
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:38,400
near-death experiences and the fourth

1801
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:39,600
book is called hacking

1802
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:43,120
the afterlife which is

1803
01:09:46,149 --> 01:09:44,400
sort of the kind of stuff i've been

1804
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,159
doing with jennifer schafer

1805
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:48,400
where i'm accessing people who used to

1806
01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:50,560
be here and asking them for

1807
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:53,920
help like how do we fix the planet how

1808
01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:55,360
do we

1809
01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,560
you know if you could talk to a

1810
01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,719
physicist over there

1811
01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:00,719
you know and and he had a problem over

1812
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,000
here like wouldn't it be great

1813
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:04,880
if i could ask him how do we make salt

1814
01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:05,440
water

1815
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:09,600
stuff like that so

1816
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:12,719
i find it very very interesting how

1817
01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:15,760
some scientists over the course of time

1818
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:18,960
have received their theories in uh and

1819
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:20,880
dream state

1820
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:24,000
yeah yeah tesla especially and even

1821
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:25,120
watson and crick

1822
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:27,600
and chasing the tale of the watson and

1823
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,400
crick sure

1824
01:10:31,910 --> 01:10:31,520
yeah so that's sure beethoven talked

1825
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,920
about

1826
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:34,320
watson crick wasn't his cat chasing tail

1827
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:36,560
that was a guy with the carbon

1828
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:39,280
cyclical molecules he could be

1829
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,030
you don't know until you open that box

1830
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:49,040
well you know in tesla's case it's very

1831
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:50,800
unusual because as you know he fell from

1832
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,600
his horse

1833
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,880
fell from a horse when he was a young

1834
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:55,199
kid and after that experience he started

1835
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:56,880
to be able to visualize things in his

1836
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:57,679
head

1837
01:11:01,510 --> 01:11:00,239
so was it the fall that helped him alter

1838
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,520
the frequency

1839
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:03,280
but you know he was a guy who could

1840
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:05,920
visualize the drawings and

1841
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:08,000
his things completely i did write a

1842
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:09,679
screenplay that over the years there's

1843
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:10,400
been many

1844
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,120
screenwriters and filmmakers like myself

1845
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:14,880
who have you know been touched by

1846
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:17,760
tesla's work at some point i real i got

1847
01:11:21,030 --> 01:11:18,560
very close

1848
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:21,040
to making a a film about edison and

1849
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,159
tesla

1850
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:24,960
and morgan well i you know honestly

1851
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,960
you're the one talking about conflict

1852
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:28,080
and drama

1853
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:32,159
yeah that was that was it um

1854
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,120
uh who was an english woman um earlier

1855
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:37,199
in the 20th century

1856
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,280
uh fell down the stairs in her london

1857
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:44,000
home when she was a teenager and when

1858
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:45,120
she

1859
01:11:56,070 --> 01:11:52,640
in egypt

1860
01:11:59,590 --> 01:11:56,080
and she went to egypt and she stayed

1861
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:59,600
at the uh the uh i don't know if it was

1862
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:01,199
the tomb or the temple of

1863
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:04,239
seti the first and she uh

1864
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:07,360
kept the temple till the end of her life

1865
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:10,159
she uh swept it and she basically lived

1866
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:11,440
on the grounds

1867
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:13,920
and she was a british woman i think she

1868
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,640
might have been

1869
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:16,560
born around the turn of the century and

1870
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:17,760
probably died

1871
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:20,960
during the 1960s i could be off

1872
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:23,280
uh by you know a number of years on that

1873
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,560
but there's a very

1874
01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:26,159
interesting book called the search for

1875
01:12:30,709 --> 01:12:27,679
omsetti that

1876
01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,719
uh also has a uh a fall

1877
01:12:34,630 --> 01:12:32,640
from the top of the seller steps she

1878
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:34,640
fell down and when she

1879
01:12:40,390 --> 01:12:38,400
uh got better from her fall she uh

1880
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:40,400
could not get herself out of the

1881
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:41,600
egyptian

1882
01:12:45,350 --> 01:12:43,840
wing of the british museum and

1883
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:45,360
eventually when she

1884
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,880
gained her majority she went to egypt to

1885
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,000
live for the rest of her

1886
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:53,040
life well here's interesting about that

1887
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:54,159
if if you look at

1888
01:13:00,550 --> 01:12:57,280
bruce grayson did a talk

1889
01:13:01,750 --> 01:13:00,560
uh in dharamsala called is consciousness

1890
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:01,760
produced by the brain

1891
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:03,679
if you just google that on youtube it's

1892
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:05,120
about an hour long

1893
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,280
he talks about the cases in the uk

1894
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:11,440
hospice workers reporting how people had

1895
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:13,760
severe alzheimer's

1896
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:17,040
suddenly regain memory just prior to

1897
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:17,679
passing

1898
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:19,199
right it's like they they come back to

1899
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:21,199
normalcy and then they die

1900
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,679
terminal they do acidity yes yeah and

1901
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:25,920
they do the autopsy and the brain is

1902
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:27,840
atrophy to a point where they shouldn't

1903
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:29,920
have been able to access these things

1904
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:32,400
his idea that it's possible that the

1905
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:33,520
filters

1906
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:35,840
that are in place that prevent us from

1907
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:38,000
accessing previous lifetimes or

1908
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:40,400
all of our memory or all these details

1909
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:41,040
die

1910
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:44,960
relation to what you're saying

1911
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:48,239
people who have a fall or car accident

1912
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:51,840
or something that alters their frequency

1913
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:54,719
their reception of frequency so that

1914
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:55,440
they can

1915
01:14:01,590 --> 01:13:59,199
access these other memories

1916
01:14:02,229 --> 01:14:01,600
which is what they are memories i would

1917
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,239
offer

1918
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,400
that if i had known elm city i would

1919
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:06,080
have said now look

1920
01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:08,560
you chose this lifetime but it wasn't to

1921
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:10,480
go sweep up in some place you used to

1922
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:11,920
live back in the old days

1923
01:14:15,030 --> 01:14:13,920
you chose it because you could learn

1924
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:15,040
have fun

1925
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:17,440
and enjoy and breathe and and you know

1926
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:18,560
entertain yourself

1927
01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:20,800
and i know you feel more comfortable in

1928
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:22,719
this thing but you know i i'm fond of

1929
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,080
saying

1930
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:26,320
you know i'm very familiar with tibetan

1931
01:14:29,910 --> 01:14:28,640
uh concept of reincarnation and so you

1932
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:29,920
know monks who

1933
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,679
remember previous lifetimes and then

1934
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:33,120
these monks show up at your door

1935
01:14:37,189 --> 01:14:35,520
knock knock knock okay we want to take

1936
01:14:39,990 --> 01:14:37,199
you back to the monastery

1937
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:40,000
the answer is i'm sorry i chose this

1938
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:40,800
lifetime

1939
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:44,159
so that i could experience this not that

1940
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:47,840
i used to do that and i can sure

1941
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,640
but i want to experience this one of the

1942
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,480
uh

1943
01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:55,199
not the the dalai lama but one of the

1944
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:56,640
other lineage

1945
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:59,280
llamas and i don't know which what the

1946
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:00,400
name is

1947
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:03,920
uh but he said he has decided to come

1948
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:05,280
back in the next life

1949
01:15:09,830 --> 01:15:08,960
as a just a boy in spain or something

1950
01:15:12,470 --> 01:15:09,840
like that it was rather

1951
01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:12,480
interesting why he had chose that rich i

1952
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:14,239
want you to mention all your books again

1953
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:15,360
because we have to

1954
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:17,679
unfortunately wrap it up at this point

1955
01:15:21,030 --> 01:15:18,400
but we have

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totally we have totally had all the fun

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you're going to have

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sorry and we'd love to have you back on

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another time

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anytime that's fabulous uh yes so my

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books

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here's one i don't know if you see that

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hacking the afterlife okay that's

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available everywhere

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and that's most recent one and then

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you've got flip

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side the movie and the book and

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it's a wonderful afterlife by the way

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the volume two

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the introduction was written by a young

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man who passed away

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and i spoke with his father in a medium

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he had written his own book his name is

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galen

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introduction so it's a fascinating

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introduction

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written by somebody not on the planet

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about what it's like for him

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wow that is interesting that is very

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interesting

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so um once again thank you

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rich martini uh thank you uh for

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allowing us to view the flip side we

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really enjoyed it

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and um we're gonna say goodbye for now

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yes thanks again

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for letting me speak to your counsel

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okay it's my pleasure

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all right very good oh cheers

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okay all right well that was really

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fascinating

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it really was very very interesting um

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uh he brought out a lot of interesting

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points well

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i mentioned this at work and they said

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oh so he's talking about purgatory

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and in a sense yeah i guess you know i

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mean before you either

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achieve a bad life or a good life you

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hang out in purgatory

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so i guess it's not quite that old an

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idea and then you have to think well

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as he said time is all over the place so

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perhaps this idea of his was apparent

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back in the middle ages

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certainly possible um in any case

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yes um i don't have a council by the way

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i don't think

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oh well we'll have to we'll have to

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hypnotize you no no no that's okay

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no no no yeah but yeah but you i really

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enjoyed that i

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found it to be extremely he's a great

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speaker yeah he's he's very persuasive i

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must say

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um in any case uh

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this i believe is our 70th show is that

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possible i think it's our 70th really

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and um please remember

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to like us on our facebook

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page their counsel tells them to right

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yes their cat your counsels tell you to

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like us on

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on your facebook page on our facebook

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page

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like us on either of or both

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of our websites we'll really pick a

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really good reincarnation spot oh boy

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oh boy um

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so also on um

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on youtube where most of our uh

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podcasts are hanging out as well and we

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really get some fabulous numbers on

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youtube

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and uh before you came i we i was

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saying that a lovely australian woman

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was telling us

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on the facebook a message how she liked

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the show

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and um what happened was that facebook

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stole the message once i sent her back

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the message

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her message disappeared so i think her

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name was maxine but i'm not sure

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so hello out there and thank you also

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to my client who introduced me

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to the michael newton work it's very

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interesting

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i don't know entirely what to make of it

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but i am going to study it further

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and uh what do you have any other uh

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i would say only one other thing if

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you have if you are a listener and you

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have had a paranormal experience and

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would like to

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share it with us on shattered reality

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podcasts

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generally we do this at the last 15

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minutes of the show

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and we've had quite a few listeners

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who've already participated

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and we don't make fun of anybody we are

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really there for you and we want to hear

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what you perceive is going on in your

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life

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that is of a paranormal nature right